work in progress
Camden Council
Tues 28 November 2017 - Health and Adult Social Care Scrutiny committee here
item 7. Mental Health and Links with Police HERE
Report of the Executive Director Supporting People
This report examines current links between police in Camden and Islington and partner agencies in relation to Mental Health. It outlines the current processes in place in this arena, addresses shortfall issues already identified and thinks about what the future for Mental Health and policing on the borough might look like.
additional documents
- Appendix A Policy Pages: Metropolitan Police Total Policing. Mental health Toolkit 2017
- Appendix B Briefing on delays in police attending for planned Mental Health Act
Assessments in Camden and Islington
- Appendix C NHS Menral Health Crisis Care for Londoners. London's section 136 pathway and Health Based Place of Safety specification, item 7.
Consideration was given to a report of the Executive Director Supporting People, which was introduced by Debra Holt, Head of Integrated Commissioning, and Treena Fleming and Jo Lloyd of the Metropolitan Police.
Dr Vincent Kirchner, Medical Director of the Camden and Islington NHS Foundation Trust, remarked that the Trust’s relationship with the Police was key and that both organisations were working hard to cut waiting times for section assessments. Andy Rogers, the Chief Operating Officer of the Trust, noted that much progress had been made on waiting times but there was much more to be done. Treena Fleming remarked that wait times had been cut significantly since the merger of the Camden and Islington Police teams but more work was needed.
Members made the following comments and asked the following questions:-
· What system did the Police have to flag unacceptable waiting times?
· How much training did officers receive on personality disorders?
· How would the strategy play out in practice to ensure that situations involving those with mental health issues were well managed to reduce the stress and trauma to the individual concerned? [my emphasis]
· Much of this work looked good on paper but could be much more difficult to achieve on the ground. It would be useful to see a follow up report once the new systems had bedded in.
· Was all the available technology being used to enable people who could not easily leave home to participate in discussions about their own care? Was the Trust’s equipment compatible with that used by the Police?
Detective Superintendent Fleming remarked that, prior to the merger of the Camden and Islington Police teams, each had had a different system for dealing with mental health issues. However, now there was one dedicated team for whom the reduction of wait times was a priority and which would also be looking in due course to carry out training on holistic intervention. The team was just about to get video conferencing facilities and officers would shortly be issued with individual laptops with Skype installed. Response officers would be equipped with tablets.
The Chair suggested that a further report back be requested in six months time, prior to which she would do some work with officers and Councillor Leyland on what specific questions the Committee wished to see answers to. [my emphasis] She thanked everyone for attending and noted that it was excellent to see the progress that was being made.
RESOLVED –
THAT the report be noted and that a further progress report be requested in six months time.
ACTION BY: Executive Director Supporting People / Metropolitan Police
TO NOTE: Programme Manager, Corporate Services
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my note: 6 months from the 28 nov 2017 meeting is 28 may 2018 - but the committee doesnt meet again until 17 July 2018 here - nothing looking like an update on the mental health links with police.
12. WORK PROGRAMME - Again NOTHING here
Wednesday 13 February 2019 here
9. Update report from Metropolitan Police Service (Centra North BCU} on Mental Health and Links with Local Authorities Camden and Islington HERE
Report of the Detective Chief Inspector, Safeguarding Partnership, Metropolitan Police Service Central North BCU
This report examines the current links between Police in Central North and Partner agencies in relation to mental health. It is an update report following changes made in 2017 in relation to processes including the Serenity Integrated Mentoring (SIM) Model, providing performance figures for 2017 to present date.
additional documents:
MPS update on Mental Health - Appendix A HERE
Minutes
Consideration was given to the report of the Detective Chief Inspector Lily Benbow.
In response to questions, DCI Benbow made the following comments:
· The Mental Health Team undertook diarised mental health assessments. It did not typically respond to callouts from Mental Health Units but would provide support if the team had capacity.
· The Mental Health team had worked with partners and implemented a work diary system to enable it to reduce the waiting times for completion of warrants while engaging a reduced number of police officers in the process.
· Training was provided centrally and shared across partners.
RESOLVED –
THAT the Committee supported the retention of the dedicated Mental Health Unit at Central North.
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my notes: seems that the question asked back in nov 2017 "How would the strategy play out in practice to ensure that situations involving those with mental health issues were well managed to reduce the stress and trauma to the individual concerned?" was not mentioned at the feb 2019 meeting, was not answered. i think they only reference adults with severe mental health problems, and then no details.
At least the committee tried, but maybe they didn't try hard enough and where wary about 'pushing' the issue with the police too much?
10 sept 2019 Health and Adult Social Care Scrutiny committee
item 11 Housing and Adult Social Care Scrutiny panel - aug 2019 update HERE
"Report of the Acting Director of Adult Social Care.
A Housing and Adult Social Care Scrutiny Panel took evidence from residents, voluntary sector groups, Council officers and external experts on housing and adult social care integration to improve outcomes for older and disabled residents.
The panel made a series of recommendations and actions and in October 2017, officers provided a response to those recommendations. A report was taken in March 2018 providing an update on the work that was underway.
A request has been made for a further update on the progression of this work. This report provides an update on the work to progress the panel recommendations.
The report shows the October 2017 response to the recommendations, March 2018 updates and August 2019 updates.
The report is being taken to the Housing Scrutiny Committee, as the report falls within the remit of this committee, and Housing and Adult Social Care Scrutiny Committee, as this was requested by the Chair. The items which are highlighted in the report reference the areas where health and adult social care are either leading or contributing to this work."
Also to be noted is that the Equality Act 2010 was in force here
and Adjustments for Disabled People here
20. Duty to make Adjustments
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